Alter Real- Chasing Chestnuts

Yesterday I accidentally found myself about to pedigree an Alter Real. It was a Grand Champion that came with a bio card with his name and parent's names provided. I like to use Breyer or Collecta bodies usually to fill in those BSO parent names on the cards. That particular model's card was super hard to find, until a friend on Facebook finally hooked me up.

Royal Real, GC Alter Real stallion

My brief overview of the breed turned up two obvious problems-- Alter Reals are essentially Lusitanos, bred at the Alter Real Stud in Portugal, and they are predominantly bay. GC has a bad habit of attaching a breed to any type of body, so I've learned to ignore that as much as it may bug the living heck out of other collectors. But the chestnut proved to be a much more challenging problem. My initial search showed two conflicting views-- Alter Reals are ALWAYS bay, and Alter Reals can come in chestnut, black, or gray as well. I figured this meant the breed had gone the way of the Cleveland Bays-- too many bays would flood the genetics with E_A_ individuals, which may or may not be homozygous against the chestnut or black gene. This probably also suggested that chestnuts had existed, even if they were a few generations back, which would mean I could breed it forward by carefully selecting mates that were not homozygous EE themselves.

Unlike many non-English speaking stud farms, the Alter Real one is not hard to find- http://www.alterreal.pt/
(If you are using the Google Chrome browser, it automatically offers to translate it to English for you. I opted for this and explored the site.) The most important part was to the top right of the logo- "Stud Book". This provides a searchable database. Simply enter the horse's name in Nome do Equino and search. But what names to look for? Where to even start?

In searching for terms such as Alter Real chestnut, I stumbled across a blog about someone's visit to the 2008 Alter Real Stud Farm's auction. There- the mention of a black Alter Real, with an accompanying photo. http://horseless.blogspot.com/2008/05/alter-real-really-great-day.html (And Sorraia's! Must investigate that another day). His name was Xuhado, and though his name didn't appear in allbreed, his sire Hircino did, but of course with no color listed. Looking back in his ped, I found the closest chestnut- a 1960 mare named Brasilia. A bit of a stretch (I don't like breeding BSOs in between if I can help it), but she would do if I absolutely had to.

I also found a site- http://www.interagro.com.br/ or http://www.lusitano-interagro.com/ for the English version. Under Interagro's Auctions, it leads to a wonderful 2013 catalog for horses and foals- http://www.interagro.com.br/2013/index.asp. But how to tell what is Alter Real? I prefer using the original website- go back to that and check under Leiloes Interagro, and a couple more links pop up. I've found that the English versions of sites often cut out "excess" links, but when you're digging for info, these links are sometimes crucial. In this case, it leads to the past auctions. Could be uber helpful for someone, but not quite what I'm looking for.

I decided to put Xuhado's name in that pedigree database I found earlier. Jackpot- this shows his birthdate, as well as Pelagem (Color) is black ("preta") Google kindly translates this for me. Unfortunately, no pictures. Clicking the bottom left button, "Ascendencia" produces a short pedigree that is linkable. Score! His sire Hircino's  Pelagem is shown as Castanha. Google translates this to chestnut. Okay! Maybe we're on to something. I trace this back several generations, but then I notice something odd. ALL of the horses are showing up as chestnut. My gut doesn't think this is right, and I switch tactics. I do a search on Portuguese horse colors and stumble across these amazing charts-- http://www.oocities.org/thoroughbredpr/CoatColorsLanguages.htm.

Sure enough, these charts support my belief that Castanha is in fact the word for Bay. Meanwhile, Alazao is the term for chestnut. This makes much more sense, as I've come across the spanish term Alazan often in my research of other breeds. I use this knowledge and do a new google search for alter real alazao, but nothing comes up. I try again- this time using ALL the resources at my disposal. First, I go to allbreed and find up the chestnut mare's name from earlier-- Brasilia. I plug this into my searchable stud book. Several come up, but only one was born in the '60s. Under her info, I find the key- Pelagem- LAZÃ.  This is what they call the chestnuts!!

Now, Google search "alter real LAZÃ" and chaching! Up pops some links including Cavalonet- an auction site for Alter Reals. Now that I am familiar with the basic terms I am looking for, I do not translate the site. I don't want Google mistranslating anything this time.

The link I pick is the 2008 auction- the same one the blogger had written about earlier: http://www.cavalonet.com/pt/eventos/programa.php?idevento=3653

Sure enough, scrolling down, I see 28- Xuhado. There are also several LAZÃ pelagems that I can then go ahead and plug into my pedigree database, cross-checking with allbreed when needed, to figure out a sire and dam that work for me!

Not only was this search successful in finding chestnut Alter Reals, but I found several blacks as well!

If this helped anyone, please let me know! I love doing this sort of research and would like to hear if anyone has been able to use it to your advantage!

P.S. In the end, I had ....

SFC Royal Real

Royal Real, bay stallion that can produce chestnut, as well as a BSO chestnut mare that is available for many older years (come one, come all!).